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Josh Marquis has been quoted in many places as saying that the idea for the Charter change was not his and that he has no involvement with the Committee. While neither of these can be proven false, recent documents released by a records request by Nick Zafiratos bring doubt into the picture.
Up first is what Josh has to say about the request itself.
Next is a email from Mike Burton who discusses tying DA pay to Judges.
Here is Josh’s reply.
2 weeks later the subject pops up again when Sam Patrick brings it up. The first was the early afternoon on June 4th.
Will post more later.
2 On Aug 2, 08:26 pm, The Guy Who Writes This wrote:
It is true, Josh isn’t just a liar, he’s a criminal for doing this while at work.
3 On Aug 2, 08:51 pm, Oracle Of Moosmoos wrote:
Let’s see what the Daily A and the Oregonian got to say now?????
Surely, whatver credibility Marquis had with anyone has to be gone now.
O’What a tangled web he did weave when he first practiced to decieve!!
4 On Aug 3, 05:11 am, The Guy Who Writes This wrote:
I wonder if this will be above the fold in the Astorian today. Any bets it won’t?
5 On Oct 6, 01:51 am, Jon Dana wrote:
I was reading the transcript of the august 8th bocc meeting ( at the independent DA site ) Hell, I didn’t know Hazen and Lee took all the data from the computers for the budget meetings and all the e-mails to the Daily A. Put them on Stevie F’s desk and he shoves them back saying he’s not interested. What a cover-up. What a friggin joke!!!
Carrie where’s my sign6 On Oct 6, 04:28 pm, Carrie wrote:
Sorry about that Jon! Shoot. I was at my cousin’s funeral today, Tammy Tenny. I am just out of sorts. I’ll bring it to you. Tomorrow, Sunday, okay?
7 On Oct 7, 04:57 am, Jon Dana wrote:
I e-mailed you. Very interesting thread on dried salmon under county counsel. what a tangled web we weave when we practice to deceive.
8 On Oct 9, 02:50 pm, Walluski Sloughman wrote:
We Love Josh Marquis” We have heard that the anti Josh people have been ripping down Josh signs off of private property is this really true or is this pulp fiction.We should can Anne Samulson/ Jeff Hazen and Also Richard Lee” Is’nt he the one that was running a puppy mill on his plantation while I was in Iraq?Anne Samulson sounds like she has montezumas revenge of the mouth… I am the Walluski Slougman And Josh is getting my vote for a good hefty pay raise… And For Anne And Jeff to leave Marquis off his list. Can we can smoke the County Mng as well? or is it kipperd?
9 On Oct 10, 11:23 am, Walluski Sloughman wrote:
Josh Marquis Rules! The anti Marquis people are the louses of the earth! We do not need anti crime punishers here do we?I am all in favor of a high security prison out at Walluski would’nt that rock!! We should hang the meth freaks,All criminals alike should be placed in the stockades or at least a public whooping post! We are to soft the mofo criminals.. Hang and slab them… Walluski Sloughman says…..... God and Islam will raise fury with the criminal softies…..
10 On Oct 10, 07:19 pm, Jon Dana wrote:
you’ll have to sober up before election day
11 On Oct 11, 01:50 pm, Walluski Sloughman wrote:
I think that you and the Other Anti Marquis people will have to help each other pull your heads out of your assess before election time. What are you going to do with out Josh as your monkey? Are you going to bring Anne Samulson and Hazen and his merry band of Costco Pupets in as Da? Or is Richard Lee going to bring his herd of Dogs and Cows as the head of the Da? It makes you wonder whose head is up there asses anyway?
12 On Oct 12, 04:41 am, Jon Dana wrote:
OK my heads out now!!!
I’m not anti- Marquis I think he should do the job he has been elected to do and in the court room he does. Is it all ethical, one would hope, but after reading the above e-mails, doubts creep into my mind. Does he do the job out of the court room, not yet. But maybe you could enlighten me with some facts and change my mind.
13 On Oct 12, 08:04 am, TM wrote:
People around here sometimes behave like a pack of wolves. If someone drags out rumor and accusations, the “wolves” smell blood. They can’t stop themselves. Trouble is, the real enemy is getting by with less opposition if “the wolf people” are focused on a little guy. Go after the Godzillas behind LNG. Not someone who came out in support of your efforts, or go after Cheney, Bush and the sheep in Congress.
And don’t believe people who say the constitution hasn’t been changed for 150 years. Did you see the Oregonian yesterday. It said the constitution has been changed 240 times (approx). The constitution as written didn’t allow “freed negro slaves” to move to Oregon. That was changed.
Put your thinking caps on gang. Stop chasing windmills and tell the county commissioners to do the same. THINK and READ
14 On Oct 12, 11:43 am, Wackoman wrote:
Please tell me what Anne and her other group of pupteers are going to do with out Josh? Why is Richard Lee so tired of Josh? Look at Richard Lee for once and some of the shit that he has pulled out of his slurry pond? Look at Anne Samulson and ask her if she is pure as the driven snow? Look at Jeff Hazen the bald head worthless piece of crap.. We deserve better..Get rid of the worthless county mngt and save us some money…
15 On Oct 12, 06:37 pm, wondering wrote:
You want to save money but you want to give it to a guy who doesn’t do a darn thing for our county? You want to drive out the four people who call him to be accountable when he decides he’s a law unto himself? What’s your problem? Patrick himself voted for performance based budgeting four years ago, Mr. Marquis was given three years to give an account for his department. If you really are trying to understand why the commissioners voted the way they did go to http://www.charterintegrity.org/AccountableProsecutors.html and see what, exactly, Mr. Marquis turned in for his budget. Look at what other DA’s throughout the state turned in. Look at what these DA’s do for their communities. Look at the services and programs they provide, look at the funds and grants that their department generates. Compare that to our DA’s budget. Now, tell me again that our DA deserves what those other DA’s are getting paid.
Who’ll be our DA when this one’s gone? Better already start looking amigos. Word is the reason he’s running up the tab now is because he’s a tier one employee. He retires in three years, at the end of this term, and his retirement is based on whatever he made for the last three years of his employment. He gets to take that retirement and go on to another career. He can draw on the full amount.
Anyone of his deputies would do. You think they’ll all leave if he does? Why? He’s sure not providing them with another job. They already know they’ve got $83,000+ salary from state plus if they do a performance based budget they’ve got another $12,00-$15,000 PLUS State benefits and County benefits plus a car, laptop, gasoline, and all the other perks that our current DA has forgotten to mention when he moans to the press but they know first hand that the County has given him. Plus, all that time to become speakers, members of national organizations, write books, opinion pieces, and become radio personalities. They also get to wake up each morning knowing they are a part of making justice happen, just the best darn feeling in the world!
16 On Oct 12, 07:00 pm, Wackoman wrote:
I read your piece of shit webpage” Who slapped that together?How come we who the group that supports the Da are and yet the anti da people are chicken shits not to have there names on there page what gives. Also for the record Richard Lee was running a puppy mill and it was the Da who closed him down( The Da wife ran for County Commissoner and Mr Lee has made it a promis to heckle the Da.Also Why not ask king Hazen and his lads of merry finger jerkers what they are getting for a stipend? He is not there for his good looks. And than Anne Samulson whines like a little baby that the democratic party gala treated her like shit.. Where was her band of merry plumbers to help her get unclogged? The county mng is paid handsomly as part of the round table of circle jerkers. I will be supporting Josh with my votes and with my money. I would just as soon see the County Charter role and the county manager banished into Green Mountain or maybe to the Jewell Refuge…..
17 On Oct 13, 11:41 am, WashingtonDc mover wrote:
I find it sort of funny what a bunch of dumbshits that the anti Da are, First of all none of them have an inkling of what the job really is and how he really performs all they know is that King Richard Lee and Lady Anne Samulson and court jester Jeff Hazen and toilet latchkey ms Roberts have opened there mouths and accept there word as gospel,You have one Walluski person that hides behind her maiden name and a former Bumble Bee executive who has never done the works of the Da but benefits from opening his trap because he has a mouth that can spout garbage from it. What do all of these court jesters have in common? They are dumbshits” They would not last one seconed in a court of law, I heard of this charade in Washington Dc. I would hope that the people of Astoria will pull there heads out of there rectal cavity and vote to keep the DA..
18 On Oct 13, 11:56 am, whoever wrote:
The PRO Charter people are so vast they can’t fit on the page. Sorry they aren’t labeled and handpicked by the elite Marquis as the “core” and “backbone” of the community. Are you sad he didn’t name you? Or is “wackoman” what he calls you in bed? I call BS that you read Accountable Prosecutors webpage. Not even you could be so stupid not to see the glaring problems with Marquis’ budget. Yeah, such a piece of shit, slapped together website, full of our community’s pictures and documents related to the issue. YEW, yuck! Who’d want to read truth and sort it out themselves when they can be spoon fed what to think with lies?
For YOUR information Mr. Lee didn’t start a puppy mill, you pathetic piece of humanity. Before you go around spreading lies you should do some research as to exactly who started that humane way to use animals. Yes, so horrendous to use animals to alleviate human suffering. All the cancer patients out there have tremendous hatred for those researchers and those providing the animals so that we lived. Take a wild guess what Mr. Lee’s first wife died a horrible, excruciating death from? And then make your heartless cracks as those of us suffering with cancer dare you to use your real name, whacked wonder. Could it be the same heartless person who makes the cracks about Indian children and other people not being “capable, smart or driven enough” to get the same pay as her husband?
The commissioners each get $800 a month. They each average 35 hours a week in the committees and other work that they do for BOCC. The county manager has to overlook 10 departments, 240 employees, hundreds of projects and services. Based on Marquis’ logic of being paid on the basis of how many employees you have he deserves about 12 times the pay that Marquis’ gets.
Your hatred is so implanted into your brain logic has no room. It doesn’t matter what is said or proven to you. You chose to follow someone who has lied to you, who has manipulated you, who has orchestrated this whole thing, so be it. The evidence that he is a bad administrator, that he doesn’t deserve to be paid the same salary as Jackson Co, Lane CO, Marion Co, Benton Co or even Baker Co has been laid before you. If you want to pay for substandard services to an unaccountable person who believes themselves to be above the law that’s your choice. You can vote for it. But it will be dismissed in court, anyways. The rally cry of the other side will be, vote for us even if the measure is illegal and you will be telling the commissioners you support the DA. The idiot who was so stupid he drew up a Ballot Measure that was illegal if followed and unconstitutional to boot!
Continue your vitriolic spittle.
19 On Oct 13, 12:00 pm, whoever wrote:
The PRO Charter people are so vast they can’t fit on the page. Sorry they aren’t labeled and handpicked by the elite Marquis as the “core” and “backbone” of the community. Are you sad he didn’t name you? Or is “wackoman” what he calls you in bed? I call BS that you read Accountable Prosecutors webpage. Not even you could be so stupid not to see the glaring problems with Marquis’ budget. Yeah, such a piece of shit, slapped together website, full of our community’s pictures and documents related to the issue. YEW, yuck! Who’d want to read truth and sort it out themselves when they can be spoon fed what to think with lies?
For YOUR information Mr. Lee didn’t start a puppy mill, you pathetic piece of humanity. Before you go around spreading lies you should do some research as to exactly who started that humane way to use animals. Yes, so horrendous to use animals to alleviate human suffering. All the cancer patients out there have tremendous hatred for those researchers and those providing the animals so that we lived. Take a wild guess what Mr. Lee’s first wife died a horrible, excruciating death from? And then make your heartless cracks as those of us suffering with cancer dare you to use your real name, whacked wonder. Could it be the same heartless person who makes the cracks about Indian children and other people not being “capable, smart or driven enough” to get the same pay as her husband?
The commissioners each get $800 a month. They each average 35 hours a week in the committees and other work that they do for BOCC. The county manager has to overlook 10 departments, 240 employees, hundreds of projects and services. Based on Marquis’ logic of being paid on the basis of how many employees you have he deserves about 12 times the pay that Marquis’ gets.
Your hatred is so implanted into your brain logic has no room. It doesn’t matter what is said or proven to you. You chose to follow someone who has lied to you, who has manipulated you, who has orchestrated this whole thing, so be it. The evidence that he is a bad administrator, that he doesn’t deserve to be paid the same salary as Jackson Co, Lane CO, Marion Co, Benton Co or even Baker Co has been laid before you. If you want to pay for substandard services to an unaccountable person who believes themselves to be above the law that’s your choice. You can vote for it. But it will be dismissed in court, anyways. The rally cry of the other side will be, vote for us even if the measure is illegal and you will be telling the commissioners you support the DA. The idiot who was so stupid he drew up a Ballot Measure that was illegal if followed and unconstitutional to boot!
Continue your vitriolic spittle.
20 On Oct 13, 03:25 pm, Hmmmmm! wrote:
word is the da prosecuted somebody’s brother 8-10 years ago and the sister is driving all this anti da stuff, she hates the man. add that to the da knocking richard lee of his puppy mill and the da’s wife almost kicking his ass in the last election you got a lot of wackos hate the man.
21 On Oct 13, 08:08 pm, WashingtonDc mover wrote:
Hey Dumbass” Richard Lee violated A County Ordinance and the dumbfucks were so afraid of cardinal Richard Lee that they begged Josh Marquis to go after him. I know Richard Lees wife died of cancer and I know that he hitched up with the Lewis And Clark Nuresy People as well& I know that Sky helped with the Charter that you bable about,Richard Lee and Anne Samulson and Master Hazen are meddling in something that they do not know there ass from a 2×4 about please encouage Hazen to go back and sling wieners at Costco and Lee to play in his slurry Pond where he and his group of vegenace mongers belong. Ask Richard Lee and Anne Samulson and Hazen why they had to use our money to fix the new county meeting room? Ask Hazen why he is along with Lord Samulson hiring an attorney with the County FUNDS * YOUR money bozo too fight marquis? I worship the grounds that Josh Walks on..
22 On Oct 14, 06:25 am, remember wrote:
To me the most important thing in all this is to remember who the DA was before Marquis and how we ended up with him. Remember the headline Cops Indicted DA Investigated followed by Cops aquitted DA convicted? This county does not have a great track record with DAs prior to Marquis.
Is he perfect? Far from it. He is however dedicated to administering justice in Clatsop County. He has done a fair job with it.
The manner in which the Stipend was taken away, despite the fact that the public opinion expressed about it was overwhelmingly against removing it was not tolerable. If the commission represents us. Why did they not listen to the public that spoke to them on this issue? I for one will not vote for my incumbent. Throw the bums out.
23 On Oct 14, 06:27 am, Jon Dana wrote:
wackoman and WashingtonDC you guy’s are my heroes if it wasn’t for your words of wisdom we’d all be lost. I’m really suprised your not given your own column in our bible ( The Daily Astorian )
24 On Oct 14, 08:31 am, Hmmmmm! wrote:
Well now, the D.A. hater has joined the conversation.
Good morning Madam #23.
Get any sleep last night or did you spend the night altering the KAST Poll?
25 On Oct 14, 09:52 am, WashingtonDc mover wrote:
The morons that do not like the Da are stupid”The dumbass whose brother was charged by the da deserved it as well as Julie Lionhardt and her bearing false witness against the local police..Maybe we should bring back the whipping post and the stockades and the banishment for dumbfucks that committ crimes in Clatsop County. The judges are to leniet on offenders for meth and Dwi,I belive in tar and feathering the drunks even if you are A Astoria Golf and Country Club Members.The local goverment had a meth summit and it was a rosey charade and all of the local nobleman men and ladies were there and so were the court jesters and the lazy ass son of bitches are not hanging the meth and drug dealers and drunks as we as A community have asked.
26 On Oct 14, 09:57 am, Jon Dana wrote:
I don’t hate anybody and I thought he was doing a fine job. But when I read those e-mails, I couldn’t believe it. Only took 4 days of research to go from a yes vote to a no vote. And, he could restore some of my confidence if he would do the Performance Based Budgeting like he was asked 3 years ago, and I would expect the bocc to restore his stipend also. But as time goes by it doesn’t look like it might happen. Then The Daily Astorian by not printing all the facts and the whole truth it starts to look like a cover-up going on. If the above e-mails are business as usual, then I really can’t believe there will be any winners.
27 On Oct 14, 10:47 am, WashingtonDc mover wrote:
Cardinal Lee And Court Jester Jeff Hazen And Harker Samulson are violating the will of the people and those that voted Josh in,The court jesters are making a mockery of the voters by having there own agenda and that is too piss off the voters who voted. Like we are a bunch of dumbfucks that do not have any brains.
28 On Oct 14, 07:40 pm, Hometown Advantage wrote:
“word is the da prosecuted somebody’s brother 8-10 years ago and the sister is driving all this anti da stuff, she hates the man. add that to the da knocking richard lee of his puppy mill and the da’s wife almost kicking his ass in the last election you got a lot of wackos hate the man.”
Another lie. There is no one driving any anti da stuff nor anyone on the Charter Integrity committee nor the commissioners who has a brother who was convicted, or even charged, by the DA of anything. Who are you saying is it that has had a brother that was convicted that the DA hasn’t effectively silenced? PROVE IT! Come on, if he’s convicted its public record. PROVE IT! Surprise, surprise, gossip mongering as a diversion when the first hand evidence of the DAs duplicity is right in front of everyone.
Attack, another truth has been revealed! We’ve just been told the emperor has no clothes! Kill the messenger!
The JUDGES go easy on people? The judges only get to see 6% of the cases. The DA said he offers plea bargains to 100% of the cases that come into his office and 94% of them are accepted. The DA lets these people off in the plea bargain. Do you even know what’s going on in the prosecutors office? Oh, never mind, how could you the guy doesn’t do performance based budgeting how could you be expected to know? YOU have to rely on his word and the Daily Astorian reporting it. You poor thing.
The commissioners never violated the WILL of the people. The commissioners aren’t allowed to judge a District Attorneys performance in the court room nor do they pay him for his services to the state. The DA’s neighbors who showed up saying what a great prosecutor the DA was missed the point. The commissioners can’t pay for a prosecutor, they can ONLY pay for “services” per Oregon law, that the DA does for the county, such as services as the administrator of a department. Problem there he is a CRAPPY administrator. He didn’t offer one single description of a single service HE does for the county. He told Hazen he does NOTHING for the county, he is an officer of the court for the state, period.
And therein lies the crux of the legality of 4-123. The DA who wrote it for you folks knows its illegal but he wanted you pissed at your commissioners. He knows this hasn’t a chance in court but hes using you to get back at the commissioners who dared to hold him accountable, who dared to challenge what he’s doing with the staff they paid for. You should be angry at being used. Instead, you turn like a pack of rabid dogs, in the direction he points you.
He lies and he manipulates, he orchestrates and he colludes. He told YOU he was not the “generating force.” What is a “generating force”? If you were in a jury box and he was going after a mafia boss who said he wasn’t a generating force nor had any association with the mafia group and Marquis presented you with those emails wouldn’t you see a connection between the boss and the group? Hell yeah you would.
We have to let this DA lie to us and manipulate us because YOU say he’s better than what we had in the past? BS. Ron Brown could do ten times the job Marquis does. Anyone on that staff could do better. You say Brown wouldn’t take a cut in pay? 1) His state pay would only be $1500 less than what he makes now BUT he would have a signed MOU with the county for his stipend bringing him up to between $95,000 – $100,000 a year (based on what was being offered Marquis) 2) Browns already been in a county with a DA that cooperates with county commissioners, a county that uses performance based budgeting and knows the benefits a DA gets when he shows how a DAs office works and where the moneys going 3) The benefits from State add another $12,000 – $15,000 onto the salary 4) The benefits from county include a cell w/unlimited calling, a car, unlimited fuel, a laptop and lax office hours. All of which Marquis is still enjoying even though his stipend was cut until he complies.
Its you, whacked out and DC dementia, that don’t know anything about law, ethics or integrity. Just because you’ve drank the kool-aid don’t expect the rest of us to dive into the punch bowl. The law isn’t on Marquis’ side, the judges aren’t on his side, the AG sure didn’t rush to his aid last week even though Marquis had the MOU a full week before that. Marquis screwed the pooch on this one. The commissioners did the right thing at the right time to the right person. The whining “victim” act doesn’t pan out. He had three years to pull together a performance based budget. He was given the same opportunity for training on what would be expected that all the rest of the department heads who were there were given, he was being paid a stipend that whole time to attend and learn. HE refused, he took the stipend and reneged on performing the service. He’s lucky he hasn’t been charged per Oregon law. The Attorney General should be looking at him for that.
29 On Oct 15, 05:41 am, Wackoman wrote:
Facts” I know Ron Brown and his family 2 I know Josh Marquis and his wife fact 3 I know Richard Lee and his first wife and I know more about the 3 than you do and that is a fact.The Clatsop County Board of Commissoner with Jeff Hazen and Anne Samulson are violating the will of the people” Anne got into office with an agenda”She wants to be a plumber and the Da or is it Richard and Jeff Hazen who want to be Da and judge each other in bed. Josh Marquis was elected by the people to serve as our Da’ I have gone into the archives and one of the people that Josh prosquestd was a arsonist and was sent to prison for that crime( He also prosqusted Richard Lee for a puppy mill, He also went after a muncipal judge that was allowing drunks to get off scott free because the muncipal judge and Da for the city was a spineless piece of shit. Get your facts babe!The voters in November will show you that they want A man and not pupett show led by Richard and Anne and Jeff Hazen… I have heard that there is a plan to impeach the county commissoners.
Look @ what the 3 have done with your money the meeting hall! the miss use of taxpayers monies for there witchhunt.
I have respect for Ron and his family and Josh and his wife
30 On Oct 15, 05:56 am, Jon Dana wrote:
Fact Wackoman, ya got your clock cleaned!!
31 On Oct 15, 07:20 am, Wackoman wrote:
You and your anti Da group have gotten your asses cleaned! Long live Josh Marquis! At least we are not filing writs with the state over the election and other pansy ass tactics to get your way.. I am hoping that all of the anti da group are tarred and featherd! Samulson and Lee and Hazen will be having Costco dogs at your expense and maybe Lee will toss in one of his cows as a treat? Justice rules and losers such you and your group will have to face the facts untill the next Da election…
32 On Oct 15, 09:51 am, Hometown Advantage wrote:
“I have gone into the archives and one of the people that Josh prosquestd was a arsonist and was sent to prison for that crime” I assume prosquested means prosecuted? So? What has that got to do with this conversation? Are you phishing for something? You know JACK! You don’t know the law and if you vote for this measure you hate the county. You’ve shown that the only reason you’re against it is your hatred for the commissioners. You haven’t brought forth any evidence just typical gossip, which so far has been the 4-123s only defense. Vote for measure 4-123 because we have provided you with the best gossip.
33 On Oct 15, 12:25 pm, Wackoman wrote:
Fuck Clatsop County And Lee And Samulson and Hazen And Roberts”Josh kicks ass and I hope and pray that he gets his raise”I suppose you work for Richard Lee or you would not have such a zest for the puppy mill maker and Liquid Plumber Samulson” I was asked to run against the dumb ass Samulson from the Jewell area but I was and am to lazy to drive into Astoria for meetings. As far as I am concerned all she is good for along with Lee besides his ag-bags founding and hazen his jackoff doggs is for a circle jerk in the new county chambers is this why they hate Marquis is because he caught them in a massive circle jerk?
34 On Oct 15, 12:50 pm, archives wrote:
For someone who “knows” it all I think you know little or are deliberately obfuscating points.
Richard Lee received tickets for not having dog licenses. He pled not guilty and the judge dismissed the charges when he proved they weren’t his pets. He wasn’t “prosecuted”. In a separate issue the county said he couldn’t have a kennel on prime farm land, he disagreed and took it to LUBA. He lost and terminated the facility.
The facility provided animals to cancer research labs. The Lees made sure that the labs only used the dogs ONCE for a test, after which the dogs were adopted out. Every once in awhile the animal was terminated when it had to be autopsied for results to be identified. Cancer sufferers and survivors everywhere are grateful for the efforts of the people that are trying to find a cure for this pervasive disease. Hard choices have to be made. Is stem cells research morally ethical or not? Can we use animals for research in a humane way or not? If we are deprived of these means what are the alternatives, how costly are those alternatives and will that drive the market out of the reach of the normal person to obtain leaving only the rich able to afford health?
You paint a black and white picture that is reflected in the man whom you already admit worshiping the ground he walks on. Pathetically, that is what he asks for, too. Our commissioners do not. They will serve you hot dogs, happily. They are grateful for the opportunity to be public servants. Unlike Mr. Marquis they love this county and the people in it and are happy to serve you for a mere $800 a month after puting in, on the average, 35 hours a week on the various committees, worksessions and meetings that are required of them in their positions.
35 On Oct 15, 01:09 pm, Hmmmm! wrote:
Samuelson doesn’t have a penis yet but, is hoping to get one that will get her to Salem with the Big Dogs the likes of Johnson and Boone.
36 On Oct 15, 03:24 pm, Wackoman wrote:
The Commissoners are walking on a thinline” They are putting there assess where it has no merit.Let me paint a frame for you as well’Josh complains that almost a million dollars is being spent on a building that is being used only by and for a select group” Ask me this do you think that Richard Lee had his head up his cows asses when he did’nt consider renting elaborate sound equipment for the county? 2. Lee has used one of his heifers again when he refuses to consider monies for a added staff for the Da, 3.The County commisson were in a group circle jerk when Josh needed to have more room for the DA office.. Lee and company are in a multi headjob when they allowed the mo fos to renovate the Astoria Clinic Building at A tune of a few million dollars. Has the county manger bowed to queen richard lee yes because richard and his band of fellow cow huggers are the ones that can fire the son of a bitch County Manager.
Please research Judge Boyington in your archival work and you will have the same feelings about Richardo Lee and The Others. Also Queen Richard and crew deacicde that Seaside can be kept out of the loop instead Astoria can be used solely. Please can Hazen and send him back where he belong at Costco and send Roberts where she belongs with Richard Lee. God bless the one and lone commissoner (Sam Patrick for being a real man and more than that A legend a man kids will be reading about in history books too come.
37 On Oct 15, 03:47 pm, Wackoman wrote:
You never know Samulson is known to pack around a dildo” She wants to be the next Govornor or is it Betsy Johnson?The anti Josh people can get her a Eletro Cart and teach her the Betsy Wave!Or she could have Richard fix her up with one of his bulls?
Maybe we should send King Richard to Salem or maybe to Washington(Get him a crown and a scepther..And have Jeff Hazen be his right hand blowjob man” There has been rumor around Oneys that Samulson wants to be the next DA? Or did I hear that at the Logger?
38 On Oct 15, 05:08 pm, Wackoman wrote:
Take Care and have fun with your election”I will be up at Paul Bunyan Slurping down a Jack & Coke if any of you folks want a free one? (Oneys for those who do not have a fucking idea?
39 On Oct 15, 06:02 pm, Registered to Vote wrote:
I am wondering what coincidental misfortune resulted in Wackoman, DC mover and Hmmm all having the same English teacher in grade school. Are these the people that Marquis and his wife are planning on fielding as candidates to replace the four of our five county commissioners who have their heads on straight? Another good reason to vote no on 4-123.
40 On Oct 15, 07:18 pm, Hmmmm! wrote:
Very witty sister, don’t haff to lite a fier under you for a mensa-kwality retort.
41 On Oct 16, 11:16 am, DC mover wrote:
I learned how to write from none other” Richard Lee And Staff” Since most of the anti Josh Marquis are grade A USDA dumbfucks” I thought that I could write like a dumbfuck”Ms Samulson and I are going to do the polka do you want to join us or do you want to do the hokey pokey and turn all around?Make sure that you read your ballots clearly and and if you have any questions ask Richard or Jeff he will bring over a teleaprompter from Costco to read you the words as he His fellow lovers reads from the good book…Make sure that you bring Jeff over pleanty of Ky jelly or vasoline to get his ass un stuck from hmmmm!
42 On Oct 16, 02:53 pm, Hmmmm! wrote:
Interesting irony this converation has degraded itself, right from the beginning, to nothing more than a typical “Dried Salmon Matters” discussion.
Old Sister Bartoldus’s aura permiates everything doesn’t it?
43 On Oct 16, 05:36 pm, DC mover wrote:
Thank You for all who took the time to write back” I reacived many yelling calls that I Was determined to think of something nice to say before I was tarred and featherd and asked to walk into the Judge Boyington Building And plea my case b4 the tribunial of Hazen and Lee/Queen Roberts And my fair lady and idol Anne Samulson. I am voting for Josh and his raise and for the county to leave there pecker out of the pot and you who hate Josh can vote your mind’Are you happy that we are having this vote instead of someone telling you the way it will be?
44 On Oct 16, 07:52 pm, whatever wrote:
“instead of someone telling you the way it will be?” Like the state legislature when they tell just us (the only county tax payers in the state FORCED to pay the same guy twice for doing the same job) how much more we have to cough up for our portion of the shared salary for the DA? Yeah, nobody bossing us around there! No choice about what his job description is or how we benefit locally. Give me a break with the whine we need him. ANYONE of his staff can do his job, they’ve already proved it by his own admission by doing 90% of the work already. He only takes the high profile jobs.
You guys are a bunch of idiots. Voting to give over local rights to state legislature. Smart, real smart. Next you’ll be celebrating that we get to pick up the tab for the state police, the state reps and the senators but never getting to actually choose the local duties, responsibilities or even the salary we will be paying. WOW! A whole lotta choice there, IDIOTS!
45 On Oct 19, 03:27 pm, Walluski Rat wrote:
Whaddya know? Lee family links revealed
‘Five degrees of separation’ connect big contributor to Clatsop County leader
Nancy Harbour, the mystery benefactor of the campaign against reinstating Josh Marquis’ stipend, finally broke her silence this morning.
Friday, October 19, 2007 Full Story
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Did you see who the money is behind the Anti DA?
A Baha minister and the wife of A Odot Pers employee and she is crying about Josh making some money and she is not using her real name” What Gives
We know her as none other than
Walluski Babble
I live 4 homes down from this anti law and justice fantatic>>>>
Josh Rules
46 On Oct 19, 05:21 pm, soooooooooooo wrote:
Jeff Hazen down for $250. whadda guy. He must still be trying to follow the governors policy. tee hee.
Come on Jeff. Why? Tell us the truth. Was it your idea or are you somebodies patsie.
47 On Oct 19, 05:51 pm, memorandum of understanding wrote:
OH Now I get it. Not. Anybody?
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Posted: Friday, October 19, 2007
Article comment by: Rick Balkins
Not for newspaper publication but for online and their read.
To Clatsop County Budget Committee and Board of County Commissioners: Provide Josh Marquis all the information of WHAT information that you need. If you failed to ask in detail of all the info that you need, then you sc**wd up.
That means, provide him with a list of ALL the information that you need. He’ll prepare you the info that you asked for whether that is what you expected or not.
Stop this b.s. with the “Memorandum of Understanding”. You failed to do “due dillegence” to communicate with him about what you didn’t understand and ask him to prepare it with the additional information that you need. Make him prepare a revised version of the budget with all the info. You didn’t need to go through this Portland attorney. You failed us in these regards.
If you had questions, you should first ask for clarification. Apparently, this didn’t happened because this fiasco would have never happened.
Drop this Portland attorney. Then reinstate his supplement upon submittal of satisfactory budget.
If we the county people ask you to prepare a budget and we can’t understand it, should we pull your stipend away. If you are going to play this game, it also applies to you.
Clatsop County Citizen
(your boss)
48 On Oct 19, 10:27 pm, Lee wrote:
I read the minutes of May, 2007 where Josh was trying to get a handle on what kind of report the board wanted but they couldn’t be pinned down because they’re only agenda was to take the stipend away immediately. Yanking the stipend had nothing to do with an accounting of Josh’s expenses, or shall I say, memorandum of understanding. Nitpiking.
Carrie, did you read grassroots people and those minutes? Do you really think Josh deserved to be treated like that? Who is Harbour.Human animals can be very cruel. Especially the “christians”, like Hazen.
49 On Oct 20, 08:05 am, Patrick McGee wrote:
Post #48 – Lee read the front page of The Daily “A” for Friday www.dailyastorian.com
Also read the first letter in “Letters to the Editor”
It should pretty much put Sister Bartoldus’s position in perspective.
Oh! for the day of “One People”, “One Society”, “One Religion”, “One Philosophy”, “One Law”.....some cherish that thought I betcha but they should stay the hell away from local politics and allowing themselves to be a pawn for another vindictive asshole.
50 On Oct 20, 08:21 am, Doody wrote:
Marquis sucks. It will be far better for the people and government of our county when that unctuous little weasle is gone.
51 On Oct 20, 05:23 pm, dizzy worm wrote:
What would it mean to be an idependent DA?
Independent means financially independent of the county. Is anyone here willing to call him a neocon? This was written by G over at dried salmon. “Why would anyone want to allow an elected official to be independent? It is insane. Do we want to give this lottery prize of megalomania to Josh? He will be another Dick Cheney, his own branch of government answerable to no one. It has social and constitutional abuse written all over it. If he is paid by the tax payers, he has to answer to those tax payers or those who represent them. Independence gives him too much power in a small community such as ours.”52 On Oct 20, 08:25 pm, Registered to Vote wrote:
Well, if the definition of a neocon is someone who is intent on using his position of power to get even more power and impose his will/thinking on others, he certainly fits that bill. Guy has hit the nail on the head.
But has anybody noticed a rather deafening silence? Cindy Price is making lots of noise over on KAST’s blog with her various conspiracy theories and accusations. But where is Betsy Johnson? Debbie Boone? The NDAA? The AG? Any other DA’s? Any attorneys at all? Could it be that the ugly truth is finally starting to leak out in spite of Forrester’s best efforts to keep it quiet?
53 On Oct 21, 03:49 pm, assertions/responses wrote:
Commissioner Sam Patrick Responds
The Columbian Press
Friday, October 19, 2007
There are many salient points to consider but I think the most critical point is the relationship
between the commission and the District Attorney.
The Oregon Constitution, thanks to the foresight of the founders, separates the District Attorney from
the control of local government. This keeps the local government, County Commissions and
Commissioners, from determining what cases will be investigated and prosecuted. The Constitution
gives the DA independence from other branches of government. I think this is a very good thing. The
Constitution also establishes the office as elected, making the DA responsible to the people not the
locally elected politicians. I think this is a good thing, too, because we have law enforcement
agencies that can investigate local politicians or prosecute them if they violate the law without fear of
retaliation.
The District Attorney is the Chief Law Enforcement Officer in the county. Can you imagine what would
happen if the commission could tell the DA’s office to stop investigating or prosecuting a violation of
law? I think the Oregon forefathers were very wise in constructing government this way—checks and
balances. Make no mistake that is exactly what the commission is trying to do.
Have you heard Commissioner Roberts or seen the memo in which she recommends to the
commission that there be more felony convictions? Her statement would lead me to believe that she
wanted the DA to increase felony convictions so the county could collect more money from the state
for state probationers no matter what the evidence might be.
Assertion: The MOU spells out what the DA can prepare for the budget committee for an accounting of
his department’s work and expenditures.
My response: If you will look at the budget material submitted to the Budget Committee I think you
will come to realize the DA presented adequate information for the budget committee to understand
that adding an additional judge would increase the paperwork need and reduce the time it takes to
get it done. The two staff added was a Victims Assistant and Child support staff.
It’s hard for me to believe that there is anyone in this county, with any knowledge of the Court
System, who doesn’t know the critical nature of these two positions. How difficult is it to
understand? I think it’s the DA’s job to determine what the needs of the DA’s office are and for the
commission to fund those positions or explain to their bosses, the people, why it can’t be done.
Instead, the commission wants the District Attorney to stop going to his bosses, the people, and
answer to them so the commission’s boss, the people, will stop asking them what the devil are you
doing Mr. Commissioner.
Assertion: The MOU gives the DA the opportunity to state what he believes would be fair monetary
compensation for his compliance.
My Response: The District Attorney has tried to meet and talk about the DA’s Office and its function
and budget, and has repeatedly asked commissioners. I asked the Commission Chair to put this topic
on the agenda for a regular meeting very early in ‘07. He has not. Why? There is a county policy that
establishes the right of a commissioner to have an item on a regular meeting agenda.
Why did the commission conduct their preparation for the ‘07 budget meeting out of the sight of the
public? Not one meeting was held to discuss any problems with the DA’s budget. Then at the budget
meeting there was a well-orchestrated effort to take the DA’s supplement.
But even with that the budget committee and commission approved the performance measures
presented by the DA and the County Manager recommended that they approve the budget as
submitted, with a supplement and the performance measures.
Then the commission approved the same budget without the salary supplement but with the
performance measures. So it sounds to me like there are some deeper problems than the budget.
If the commission has refused to talk with the DA how does this MOU change that? Commissioner
Roberts has stated that without ground rules established by the commission and accepted by the
DA’s Office the commission would not talk to the District Attorney.
The contract (MOU) is an effort by the commission to circumvent the Constitution and completely
ignore The State Attorney General’s role in supervising this District Attorney’s Office. These ground
rules, if acquiesced to, would bind our current DA and all of those who will follow.
Assertion: The MOU gives you and me a clear document (as is the case with other County
departments in the performance based budgeting) so we can see where and how our tax dollars are
being spent.
My response: Without the Contract (MOU) you can still see how and where tax dollars are being
spent by reviewing the budget. Management by objective is only as good as the goals and
objectives.
Just look at the County Managers Budget Goals, objectives and measures. One of his objectives is to
have packets out a week before a commission meeting and he demonstrates that his office is pretty
successful with that. But there is nothing that speaks to his job as manager of personnel. How many
employee complaints have there been? How many employees have been disciplined and for what?
How much money has been spent on attorneys and for what? I think these issues have a greater
effect on how government services are delivered than how many commissioner packets are delivered
on time.
Assertion: The MOU is a tool for the County Budget Committee to help them determine whether their
budget allocations (our tax dollars) are being spent in the most efficient way possible.
My response: First and foremost it is not their job to determine if the DA is spending tax revenue in
the most effective way. The District Attorney is a constitutionally established officer elected by the
people. It is the Commission’s job to fund the DA’s office at an appropriate level and it is the people’s
job to determine if he, the District Attorney, is spending the tax dollars in the most effective way.
A great deal has been made over the lack of information given the commission about the staffing
levels and the expenditure of tax funds. Not two years ago the commission hired a private consultant
to examine the workload and staffing levels of the District Attorney’s Office. That consultant used
information gathered from court records to support their conclusion that the DA’s office carried
essentially the same workload as Columbia and Lincoln Counties with fewer Deputy District Attorneys
and clerical staff. The report recommended that the county hire additional clerical staff and attorneys
to carry the caseload. Clatsop County hired a Victims Assistant and filled a Child Support position.
Not satisfied with an examination of court records by an independent group, the commission asked
the manager to get statistical information from the DA’s computer system and used raw data in an
attempt to discredit a study asked for and funded by the commission. By the way, the commission
spent $10,000 for that study.
Regarding the expenditure of tax money, the Clatsop County Commission has spent $9,000 to keep
the people of the county from voting on the DA supplement and $2,000 more or less, as of the last
commission meeting, to show the District Attorney is the antagonist in this matter.
If you look past the crap I think you will see that the commission doesn’t want to interact with the
District Attorney unless, as Commissioner Roberts states, the commission and Commissioner Roberts
establish the Ground Rules.
Hope this adds to the solution, not the problem.
Thank you.
54 On Oct 21, 06:47 pm, jimmycrackcorn wrote:
Sister Sarah is a flake” She is a loudmouth that is benefiting from the State of Oregon as Josh Marquis is a benefit, Also Sister Sarhah is too chicken to use her married name as it would lead to an embarrassment to her. Leave Josh alone’ I am sure that the other bloggers could find other funny things about you.. Richard Lee a washed Dairy Farmer that benefitted from the goverment farm buy out” Why is’nt he shoveling manure like a real farmer. Yes Richard is founder of Ag-Bag Silage and is self made. Lets see Jeff Hazen is a whipping boy for Price Costco” Why are you not a full fledged Manager Jeff to lazy?Is Anne Samulson benefitting from County Contracts and why is she and her latch key plumbers charge to much money when her competor has better plumbers..I live out on Hwy 202 and know Sister Sarah” Have you been out preaching the good word? Why not use the blowjob faith as it is written instead of condeming people that serve God in a healthy manner as Josh has done/ Man cannot serve two masters your either for me or against me,,,, Jimmycrackcorn
55 On Oct 22, 06:57 am, Jon Dana wrote:
Approx. 19 paragraph of post 53 What kind of reasoning is this? So if we had a DA that was really, really wasting our county tax dollars, the budget committee should just keep funding his dept., until he is voted out??? Has Sam Patrick lost his mind. Sounds like a justification to be on the DA’s side. Unfortunately 90% of the people don’t know much about county budgets, let alone county govt. That’s why we elect the county commissioners. I guess whatever budget the DA turns in would be appropriate in Sam’s eyes. Sorry, I elected a commissioner to look after my co. tax dollars. If they want a more transparent budget they have the right to ask for it. Sam Patrick even voted for a budget based on performance 3 years ago. Maybe he forgot. HHMMMMMMMMMM
56 On Oct 22, 07:26 am, wtf? wrote:
Maybe the reasonable Sam Patrick thinks, along with the majority of voters, that Marquis is running a cost effective department. Ya think?
57 On Oct 22, 10:09 am, jimmycrackcorn wrote:
We salute Sam Patrick and Josh Marquis, We tar and feather Anne Samulson and Lee,Roberts, Is the above people whining like a bunch of assholes because they have not gotten any pork barrels from the Da. Look at your cast of Charaters Samulson a plumbbitch,Lee a washed out wanta be dairy farmer, Hazen a hotdog slinger, And a bible tote Molly Hatcher, Please bring in the bible for our referance mark,,
58 On Oct 22, 01:06 pm, jimmycrackcorn wrote:
Sounds like Jon Dana has been reading to many comic books along with Baja Carry” Makes us wonder if they are husband and wife? Actually Kerry and her clan are Pers people and yet she slams Josh” What would you and your clan do without the State monies Sister Kerry? I live right next to the steel bridge near the Walluski if you want to bitch and slam your baja bible at me.. Jon Dana ask Kerry B or Kerry Rummell how they benefit from Odot money? (Clatsop County is filled with hypocrites with the old fucking feeling why doese he deserve it? Why should he have if I can’t have it? Tell all of those Wauna baboons that they do not deserve union represation or there fucking jobs. Tell the wanta bee gillnetters to head to Gus Andy and Steves and sob in a drink ( Tell anyone in Clatsop County that makes more than God Kerry and Dana tana to fuck off because there holy bible says that they do deserve a fair wage.. According to her holiness Kerry you must make $ 5.00 an hr and and get food stamps” or what doese God Kerry see in her crystal ball? Kerry your dad made to much money as the Allied Van Lines Man here in Astoria (Maybe you should write out checks to all of the poor souls he overcharged. I am heading to Burns so if you want to find come over to the Little River Campground.
59 On Oct 22, 06:53 pm, Jon Dana wrote:
You made so much sense I’m going to open my ballot back up and with a big eraser change my vote.
60 On Oct 22, 07:07 pm, Jon Dana wrote:
To post 56
Exactly how do the majority of voters know that he is running a cost effective dept. I would rather know he is, instead of think he is.
61 On Oct 23, 10:17 am, jimmycrackcorn wrote:
Jon Dana it is ignorant people such as you and Carry that make the world a worthwhile place to live, At least I know that I voted for Josh and for the charter that it will make little whiners like you cry.. How come Carry and her husband get to enjoy ODOT Pers and what kind of benefits do you benefit from ignorants? Maybe Richard and Anne and Jeff and Mrs Roberts will have a anti charter orgy with Lees cows and he will invite your sorts??? Take it any way you like?
62 On Oct 23, 01:47 pm, Doody wrote:
it will be nice to see the DA ammendment go down in flames…..hopefully it will speed Marquis’ overdue exit from Clatsop County public life
63 On Oct 24, 06:46 am, jimmycrackcornandidontcare wrote:
Richard Lee and Anne Samulson and Jeff Hazen And Mrs Roberts will all be charged with voter fraud and be sent away like they should, Richard Lee the dumbfuck that he is allowed his kinfolk to funnel money into the election’ He must be afraid of Josh or something? Anne Samulson is a hairless twit that she is went along with Mr Lee dumbfuck plan and than what made matters worse was Jeff Hazen who has his head up his rectum followed the cowdung to water and he will lose his Wall-Mart Job and be raped in the penis system with Lees band of gay men.Carrie Rummell will run for Da or is that Dumbass with Doody and dana..How doese this novel sound?Doody? or is that pronounced Dickless?
64 On Oct 24, 12:40 pm, Uniontown Commie wrote:
I hope someone takes photos of the expressions on Marquis’ and Prices faces when tht stupid ammendment gets tromped on by the voters.
Maybe then they will finally “get it”.
65 On Oct 24, 01:07 pm, Carrie Bartoldus wrote:
Your the coward that hides their name while deriding others. Hide your name if your opinion will loose you your job. Hiding your name while you attack others is cowardice. I truly doubt your one of the two families living next to the metal bridge. When all four commissioners are exonerated will you have the courage to apologize? Highly doubtful. You want to live in a county that is run by people who convict on allegations? Who try cases in the media based on no evidence whatsoever? I guarantee a clean slate on all four commissioners. There’s no way I will believe any of them gave the private citizen money to be filtered to me. Mr. Lee has never cared before that people know what he’s doing and there’s no reason he would start “hiding” his affiliations now. His wife openly contributed $350 to the campaign. Jeff Hazen openly contributed $250 to the campaign. Roberts and Samuelson have bent over backwards to negotiate a compromise with the DA that would be equitable to the citizens they represent, to the other department heads who have been cooperative and to the district attorney. OBVIOUSLY, with the threats of lawsuits all over the place the commissioners WISELY obtained counsel to protect the county from Mr. Marquis’ vicious behavior. ALL of the commissioners, as well as everyone who has been remotely involved with this campaign, locally, knew they were going to be looked at with a magnifying glass. Obviously no one told this woman, this private citizen, how vindictive Mr. Marquis is. This squelching of an individual’s right to contribute to whoever, whatever and whenever they want should be abhorrent to a free society. If this is her first contribution, doesn’t someone have to be first? YOU have no idea if this woman is divorced and always gave before under her married name with her husband, this might be her hundreth contribution. YOU have no idea if she recently inherited money and wanted to contribute to a community she had been thinking of moving into. Personally, I would have liked to seen someone that cares about the community move here. YOU obviously think innuendo, gossip and slander is enough to convict someone on. I wonder if this woman is still thinking of moving here, now? A fine welcome our paper has given a potential philanthropist. The average homes in the area she is living sell for over $250,000 dollars. She is not a slouch nor a coverup. The CRIODA people have made a serious mistake and just as they are taking the clatsop county tax payers on an expensive court room odyssey they intend on taking all who cross their path there as well. And you wonder that our commissioners have tried to protect the county with a lawyer? Your answers are right in front of your eyes, if you just had the courage to open them.
Marquis enjoys more pers than my husband and I do, by far. Why are you so violent about our pers and not his?
People go on and on that the county wasn’t explicit enough with Marquis about what they wanted from him, as if he were a child that must be led by the hand. He was given MORE information than ALL Of the other department heads about what kind of information to submit from his office yet he failed to comply. He was told to relate what his office did. What services it provided locally, what the staff did. How the third judge used up more staff time. At the beginning of each of the three years each department was given their instructions for budgeting. They were reminded to use the pbb format, they were reminded to contact the staff for help to format it properly. The staff CANNOT tell a district attorney that what he CANNOT use. They do not have the legal power to refuse his budget, as he full well knows but which he knows YOU don’t know, so he harps on the point that his budget was “accepted” by the staff. He complains that the Commissioners won’t meet with him. He didn’t do anything required of him for three years! He hasn’t shown one single good faith effort to show he is willing to comply with the pbb. He just whines they won’t tell him what they want. They want him to follow the recommendations he was given three years ago, two years ago and one year ago and at the beginning of this fiscal year of budgeting. He’s not a baby. He is an intelligent adult that knows exactly what is required. He’s playing you and he thought he could play them. They have refused to be played. But, just as his email threatened: “If they want to take my stipend, they can suffer the consequences.” Who still believes he’s not vindictive?
66 On Oct 24, 02:19 pm, Patrick McGee wrote:
Carrie, are you going to appear on Freel’s show to address the same questions Marquis answered?
67 On Oct 24, 03:50 pm, jimmycrackcornandidontcare wrote:
Carrie You are jealous of Mr Marquis good fortune!Richard Lee is a coward and a piece of shit as is Mr Hazen And Roberts. Please prove your case that if Josh is so bad as you claim than who do you want as Da? Josh is more of a man than any of the commissoners except Patrick who has more balls than all. How come your group was ripping down signs if you are so rightous as you pretend to be? We all know Lee had a pydo come in and make the large donation” I am sure that the group will start impeachment against Lee and Hazen and Samulson and Roberts(In other words Carrie they are just Clatsop Counties version of George Bush.. Cowards….God Bless Josh Clatsop County loves him. I work for a well known firm that would fire me for writing on this blog for your info…. I live next to the Steel Bridge I should know where I live Duh”” I voted for Joshs money as your pity group will see as the results come in..
Why did you vote for Josh as Da anyway?
68 On Oct 24, 08:54 pm, doody wrote:
Anyone know how much the Mafia has contributed to the “good guys”?
And by “good guys I mean the ones who want to see this stupid DA ammendment go down faster than Larry Taylor in a Frisco bath house..
69 On Oct 25, 08:15 am, jimmycrackcornandidontcare wrote:
Doody”I am betting that you and Lee and Hazen and Roberts and Samulson and group are going to have a massive orgy at the lee farm. Has Richard assigned you a heifer yet?
Sister Carrie will have her ledger to read from as you all take your turns. Has Richard deacided to run for Da? or is that for Carrie?Or yet Anne? or Jeff?
70 On Oct 25, 10:49 am, doody wrote:
Hmmmm…how much are you willing to wager there, bathhouseboy?
71 On Oct 25, 12:18 pm, Carrie Bartoldus wrote:
Patrick – Yes, 8 Am Friday
Jimbo – Quit being a ridiculous ass. I honestly don’t know if you hate 4-123 so much you want to help make them look more ridiculous than they already do or if you just write when you’ve finished drinking your corn mash but you are being disgusting.
I don’t feel Marquis has any good fortune, nor am I jealous of him in the least. I have never seen his brilliance in the courtroom. Each time I have seen him he has been totally unprepared for the case. I’ve read about his brilliance in the Daily Astorian. He is brilliant against strung out drug abusers, mentally retarded people, and the emotionally unstable. He lumps them altogether as the dregs of society. Whatever.
Why do I know this? I have a bachelors in Liberal Studies with a double minor in Business Administration (special emphasis in Cultural Diversity in the Work Place) and Anthro/Soc (special emphasis in CRIMINAL LAW). Lots of study for that and GUESS WHO has written all OVER THE PLACE about Criminal Law? It amazed me how much our DA had written, and consistently it was the most outdated opinions he had as if he hadn’t read or expanded his knowledge since he left law school. I kept wondering, “When does he do work for Clatsop County?” Court TV appearances, away trying cases all over the state, speaking at other DA associations state conventions. Yet, here, he says he’s in court every day! How does he do it? Tuesday, I believe, he was on Tom Freel 8-9 am and then Lars Larson 3-4PM and he says, “I do interviews with the media all on my own time, after hours.” And I thought, what hours is it that you keep? I mean it, he must be superman.
Yet, he refuses to be accountable. Why not just give the commission what every other department head gives them? Why can all the other department heads figure it out? Is he really that incompetent? The BOCC did not need to meet with any other department head to give them private lessons in pbb training. All other department heads figured out what was needed to explain and prove their budget but Mr. Marquis couldn’t? Read his budget. Not the interview. The interview is what had to be pulled out of him, plus it still didn’t describe his services to the local citizens NOR did it give ANY information regarding how his additional staff was using the third judge. How many cases are civil, how many are small claims, how many are tickets? How many cases do the staff we pay for actually appear in front of the third judge for?
We have 6 Deputy DAs, a Chief Deputy DA and a DA. We have one deputy per 5,234/people. The median in Oregon is one deputy per 10,000-12,000 according to Jackson and Multnomah Co. DAs. If we got rid of one deputy we would still be well below the median. According to the statistics generated by our DAs office from the DACMS system that he can’t manage to program or understand, as well as the state statistics, the cases that went to court in 2006 were 1,726. That averages to 246 cases a year of appearances in front of a judge. IF Marquis did a proper performance budget he could explain what this means. However, more than likely this would lose him staff. More than likely this means that out of those 246 cases, as was pulled out of him during the budget review interview, 94% of them were plea deals that were accepted and signed off by the judge, involving a one to three hour process. 738 hours out of a 1920 hour work year, approx, spent on those cases. About 15 cases per deputy DA go to trial each year. This takes on the full case loads and leaves DA Joshua Marquis w/o any cases at all. If you add him into the equation it lessens the Deputy DA’s loads considerably.
This is not telling Mr. Marquis how to prosecute or who to prosecute. It is explaining his staff’s caseload and accounting for their hours. It does not discuss win/loss records. It discusses time spent on a case, regardless of the outcome. Although the National District Attorney’s Association, as well as Cora Lane, think recidivism is extremely important (which is why Felony convictions for repeat offenders is more important than constant misdemeanors being tacked on) in evaluating performance so far the commissioners have not seen that as an imperative part of their budget analysis. IF any of them were to ask about FELONIES it would be as a follow up to Cora Lane’s questions. ASKING questions is not TELLING Mr. Marquis anything. It is, simply, inquiring. Mr. Marquis is a prosecutor. All question are adversarial to him. It is his nature. It makes him hard to work with.
The Prussian Mafia* has contributed about $500, the Finn Mafia* has contributed about $300, the Pollack Mafia* has contributed about $150, the Astoria Mafia* has contributed about $300, the Warrenton/Seaside Mafia* has contributed about $450, the Knappa Mafia* has contributed about $400, the Olney/Jewell Mafia* has contributed about $175, the Lewis & Clark Mafia has contributed about $475 outlying vicinities Mafia* has contributed the rest, APPROX. *IF, and only if, by mafia you mean anyone opposing measure 4-123.
72 On Oct 25, 12:51 pm, Patrick McGee wrote:
Carrie, let’s both set aside our own personal issues for a moment here.
Realistically, what’s it going to take to settle this nonsense on both sides so that all are standing on common ground.
Take all the personalities out of it and look to a resolution.
This is not an ambush on my part, I assure you.
73 On Oct 25, 02:42 pm, Ms Lee to Ms Carrie wrote:
Carrie-you infer that the county convicts on allegations. How can that happen if the judges run the courtroom responsibly? Good Lawyers and Prosecutors will try whatever works.
And how can you believe that the DA would allow the harrassment of the young fishermen that lived part-time in WA? Is it his dept. that orders that they be monitored for a year?
I have no training in criminal law so I’m just asking.
Respectfully, Lee
74 On Oct 25, 02:55 pm, Carrie Bartoldus wrote:
This issue is not ours to solve, honestly and frankly. It is an inhouse HR issue. Commissioners dealing with a department head.
That’s the way I see that issue. I am not shutting you out but I cannot debate this right now.
Right now, this has to be my last post. I have two assignments due by 5. I came here for inspiration and outside perspective. Thank-you to the comprehensive thinkers out there!
75 On Oct 25, 04:02 pm, Ms Lee to Ms Carrie wrote:
But..didn’t you say. Oh nevermind. I think I understand.
wink
76 On Oct 26, 06:52 am, walluskiwestern666.89 wrote:
Carrie is going to run for Da” Yes Anne Said that Carrie has been a good whipping gal so she is going to put Carrie on as the new da when or if josh leaves, And Richard said that he will be happy to appoint her along with bald ass hazen.. We want you carry nation as our next da please apply you can do the job better than josh and you will be Anne whipping girl. And are we going to send Jeff or is it richard that will take Jackie Taylor place?I heard speculation that Anne wants to be a man? Can you look up in your books how you can help Anne get to Salem??
Lets all vote for Carry hooray!!!!!!!! please m’a master wuld you runn for Da???
77 On Oct 26, 07:56 am, walluskiwestern666.89 wrote:
Can You Post the upcoming script to PeytonPlace Astoria in Advance? We are curious to see who is doing who and what is happening to who? Or is this charade called as Astoria turns?
78 On Oct 26, 12:37 pm, walluskiwestern666.89 wrote:
Letter: A guarantee
How would like you like your salary absolutely guaranteed? I would, and I will bet you would, too. That is what Measure 4-123 will do for the district attorney.
Good job or bad job, the district attorney will be guaranteed from 90 to 100 percent of a circuit judge’s salary. If the state raises the salary of the judges, but not the district attorneys, it doesn’t matter. Our district attorney will get 90 to 100 percent of the judge’s new salary.
If you’re foolish enough to want the state to control the Clatsop County district attorney’s salary, vote for it.
I am voting “No.”
Bill Barrons
Astoria
79 On Oct 29, 01:15 pm, Bathroombable wrote:
Da Carrie Bartoldus one! Horray! She got her knickers on an made the Da sign the memo” How did you get your knickers all tied up Carrie and Win…. I bet that Anne Samulson is going to find you a room next to hers? or is it going to be Hazen? When I read that Carrie won by a landslide and got Josh to sign I had to head and buy a stiff hardy drink.. Remember to call Da Carrie and Congrat her now..Jon Dana give Carrie a big fat wet one!!And her other bathroom buddies and help Carrie get her knickers untied.
From Bathroombable.
or John Mcqueen
80 On Oct 29, 06:52 pm, Country Boy wrote:
Carrie is caught again! When she said she was not notified but 24 hours ahead of the debate see what she says on their website in the Oct 12, news release. But then she can put a spin on that also
http://www.charterintegrity.org/PBB.html
81 On Oct 30, 07:44 am, Patrick McGee wrote:
As it is in all family squabbles, sometimes somebody has to be the adult, set aside their egoes and settle an issue.
Thank you District Attorney Marquis, you deserve that stipend for doing so and my vote, yes on 4-123, was well worth it.
I also thank the citizens of Clatsop County, whose County Charter is an instrument of and by them, for being wise enough to take the issue of a permanent stipend out of the hands of a, no confidence, County Commission more intent on a personal vendetta than serving the people who elected them.
82 On Oct 30, 08:08 am, Country Boy wrote:
Well said Patrick.
I Would say this is a lack of confidence vote?
83 On Oct 30, 09:40 am, Patrick McGee wrote:
Pretty much.
84 On Oct 30, 12:03 pm, what? wrote:
Countryboy: The only reference I see to a debate in the press release issued on OCT 12th at http://www.charterintegrity.org/NewslettersPR.html was Jeff Hazen’s personal request for dual columns debating the issue. What are you talking about? There wasn’t any press releases at the link you gave.
85 On Oct 30, 12:05 pm, what? wrote:
Countryboy: The only reference I see to a debate in the press release issued on OCT 12th at http://www.charterintegrity.org/NewslettersPR.html was Jeff Hazen’s personal request for dual columns debating the issue. What are you talking about? There wasn’t any press releases at the link you gave.
86 On Oct 30, 01:04 pm, Hmmmmmmmmmtoo! wrote:
Carrie, your 15 minutes is up now, it is all irrelevant and Babi’ will not forgive you for meddling in the politics of hatred.
Shame, shame, shame on you.
87 On Oct 30, 03:37 pm, ummmm wrote:
As usual, hmmmm, you have no idea who or what you’re talking about. Gossip, rumor, innuendo, that’s all you got. There are more people than carrie who oppose this measure. Slamming other people’s religion just shows your own ignorance. But you’ve already shown you don’t care how ignorant you appear to people. I don’t think Christian would forgive you for being so full of hatred.
88 On Oct 30, 06:45 pm, Hmmmmmmmtoo! wrote:
Just keep that train of thought Carrie.
Ain’t nobody slamming no religion.
One religion, one people, one law, one government, one world police, all automatons, all wrapped up and aswerable to the international house of justice in Haifa.
What is it you say? A disdain for all party politics?
Well, of course you do.
Conventional law, order and government too I presume.
89 On Oct 30, 06:54 pm, theanticarrieforce wrote:
Please take Carrie to Iraq with you Hmmmmm(I am sure that Anne will send Carrie a check and also you for your private Jihad… I understand That Richard and Also Jeff have been looking for a personal muleskinner and that many have applied.When will the public hanging be for Jeff and Richard?? Love Your friend Brandy And Todd.. Scooter
90 On Oct 30, 07:51 pm, Country Boy wrote:
This is taken from their website, Click on news letter and Media Info
The Daily Astorian has sided with Mr. Marquis throughout this debate. Recently, I contacted the editor, Patrick Webb, to see if they would be interested in doing a dual guest column with Mr. Marquis and myself over the stipend issue. In Mr. Webb’s response, he said that “this will be fun.” I was offended by the remark because I don’t believe that this is fun and I have rescinded my offer to write a guest column. It is apparent to me that the Daily Astorian finds this as a source of entertainment in order to sell more papers.”
It shows she wanted a debate until it was accepted
91 On Oct 30, 07:59 pm, morebs.county.com wrote:
The Chair of the Clatsop County Board of Commissioners, Richard Lee, issues this statement in regard to District Attorney Josh Marquis’ letter to the board’s attorney, John Junkin:
Speaking on behalf of three other County Commissioners, I would like to offer the following response to the District Attorney’s latest announcement:
After months of difficult dialog, we are pleased that Mr. Marquis is willing enter into a cooperative agreement or understanding with the Board of Commissioners that will provide information needed for the Budget Committee to do its job while restoring the District Attorney’s supplemental salary. Mr. Marquis’ willingness to implement performance based budgeting and other financial policies is a step forward.
We find the District Attorney’s latest offer acknowledges that the issue-at-hand is about preserving the Citizen Budget Committee and the Board of Commissioner’s financial responsibilities to the taxpayers. At no time has any member of the Board of Commissioners, the Budget Committee or County staff attempted to influence the prosecution of criminals in Clatsop County. That has never been a real issue. As Chair of the Board, I’ve directed that the County Manager place Mr. Marquis’ offer on the Board’s November 20, 2007, Regular Meeting Agenda for further consideration.
We hope Mr. Marquis’ offer to discuss an agreement is genuine and that he will allow the Board of Commissioners time to deliberate on this matter. I would be very disappointed if Mr. Marquis’ offer turned out to be insincere. Once the Board of Commissioners have a chance to discuss Mr. Marquis’ offer during our next board meeting, it’s my hope the Board will initiate a direct discussion with Mr. Marquis.
I look forward to discussing how Mr. Marquis plans to furnish the Budget Committee with sufficient facts and evaluation methods, similar in specificity and completeness to the performance information he provides to the State.
92 On Oct 30, 09:25 pm, Country Boy wrote:
Wait a min. I was told it was a matter of principle, the county paying a state employee> I did not understand it to be of anything else
93 On Oct 31, 07:20 am, theanticarrieforce wrote:
Ask Da Carrie to better explain it? She is the driving force behind this
And also King Richard Lee and his minions.. He has really made a mess of this county almost like his manure lagoon!
94 On Oct 31, 01:05 pm, Lee wrote:
I think the “Chairman” was a little catty. Here’s what the District Attorney had to say.
STATEMENT OF JOSHUA MARQUIS
District Attorney, Clatsop County
Wednesday, October 31, 2007
The latest news release from the County Commission is
simply wrong.
The only decision the Board needs to make is whether
it is willing to sit down and talk to me in good faith.
My letter simply said what I would do, and that is what
I’ve been doing all along: complying with all county
budget policies.
Once again, I’ve given the Board absolutely all the
information it has ever asked of me.
My letter saying what I will do is genuine. Mr. Lee’s
statement is not.
Since at least the May 14th budget hearing I have
stated over and over, in every possible forum, that I
have and will continue to comply with county policies
regarding the budget, including reasonable
performance measures which I provided the county in
April.
Contrary to Mr. Lee’s latest press release, Oregon DAs
do not provide performance measures to the state. We
work for the voters. It is not my duty as District
Attorney to “implement fiscal policies” for revenue
enhancement at the cost of fair and impartial justice.
This is not about preserving the Board’s financial
responsibilities. This is about preserving the
independence of my Office from the Board’s attempt to
manipulate my decision-making as the Oregon
constitution defines the District Attorney: “the Chief
Law Officer of the County.”
This latest collection of half-truths makes it clear the
only way the issue of ensuring the independence of the
office of the District Attorney will come through the
voters action on Measure 4-123.
Note: See the District Attorney’s October 15, 2007 letter to County legal representative
John Junkin, of Bullivant Houser, for the context of these two statements.
from independentda.com
95 On Oct 31, 03:14 pm, theanticarrieforce wrote:
How many in favor of starting a impeachment proceedings against the existing board….
Impeach Richard Lee/Samulson/Roberts/Hazen/ They can work for Carrie in her Da office?Can we send you a plaque Carrie for your newly created office? We are A group of Anti Richard Lee People and And Hazen And Roberts and Samulson.
We think they should step down like Bush should bow out yuck”“”“”“”
96 On Nov 1, 04:50 pm, wondersnevercease wrote:
Country Boy – You are retarded. Jeff Hazen asked for the dual column. Bartoldus had nothing to do with a deal offered between Hazen and Webb.
97 On Nov 2, 11:08 am, antijeffhazenthegeek wrote:
Country Boy – You are retarded. Jeff Hazen asked for the dual column. Bartoldus had nothing to do with a deal offered between Hazen and Webb.
Country Boy _ Has been romping to many sheeps and pigs so he is not with the program you will need to excuse him WONDER” As far as my opion of Carrie she is a geek and a loud mouth who opens her ass to gain fame enough said. Also Jeff and Richard and Anne and MRS Roberts are geeks as well” They have fucked the county with there attitude like Geo Bush we are in office and we do not have to listen to you and what you say & That is what pisses the county people off. Ann she is to busy boning one of her pvc pipes and Jeff is content with his Costco dogs. And Richard And Mrs Roberts they are over at Lees ranch Richard Parking his Semi in mrs Roberts Garage..You can find me at the Labor Temple at the lunch counter..
Saturday @ 12:00pm Rafeles..
98 On Nov 2, 12:37 pm, doody wrote:
“You can find me at the Labor Temple at the lunch counter..
Saturday @ 12:00pm Rafeles..”
________________________________________________
Sure we can-you’ll be right there with all the other retards, head cases, drunks, and high rolling unemployed ne’er-do-wells.
99 On Nov 2, 01:53 pm, antijeffhazenthegeek wrote:
Doody will be with Richard And Anne And Jeff And Mrs Roberts seeing who can floss Lees ass first touche….Oh yea” I am sure that Carrie will be with you egging you on.
See you Doody at the Labor Temple 12:00 Rafeles
Bring your Ky Jelly I hear that Jeff has a dry ass…................(())))))
100 On Nov 2, 02:26 pm, Doody wrote:
I rest my case.
101 On Nov 5, 12:42 pm, Country Boy wrote:
see post
96 & 97
See post below. Who is retarded and romping too many sheep?
Yes it was Jeff that said it but posted by Carrie
Is Jeff against fun or just afraid to debate once it is accepted?
The Daily Astorian has sided with Mr. Marquis throughout this debate. Recently, I contacted the editor, Patrick Webb, to see if they would be interested in doing a dual guest column with Mr. Marquis and myself over the stipend issue. In Mr. Webb’s response, he said that “this will be fun.” I was offended by the remark because I don’t believe that this is fun and I have rescinded my offer to write a guest column. It is apparent to me that the Daily Astorian finds this as a source of entertainment in order to sell more papers.”
Submitted by Carrie Bartoldus, public information officer, 503-338-8492
For Citizens for Clatsop County Charter Integrity
PO Box 578 Warrenton OR 97146 503-468-3434
102 On Nov 5, 05:54 pm, countrypackrat wrote:
I see that Carrie is hosting a hoe down at her home” It was posted on this blog when and where do we bring vitals? I see that she is celebrating her win! Did you know that Carrie has become the new Da? It is all around Astoria and posted at the Olney General Store that Carrie has been proclaimed the new Da” Congrats Carrie are you going to bring in Anne Samulson and Jeff Hazen and Lee into your dynasty or is this going to be only for the Bahi followers? See what Carrie has proclaimed at the Olney General Store…. It will be exciting to see her win… Can we bring a side of beef? Or do you only want sheep or goat?
Sincerly A follower of Carrie B….yes’ she won…..... Patrick Grayson3rd
103 On Nov 5, 08:41 pm, Lee wrote:
Carrie is a force to be reckoned with because she is brilliant. She is articulate and believes she’s right on this issue. She has inegrity. I don’t always agree with her but I like and respect her. Only a woman hater would harrass her repeatedly in such a cruel way. I have no doubt she is
capable of taking care of herself, but I want to remind you that she has has done much good . She is a scholar and a motherly woman.Our minds seldom meet on methods of political activism. In fact she speaks her mind and will most likely try to put me in my place, but this is/was america. She is a good citizen in my view. Please stop harassing Carrie.
104 On Nov 6, 07:00 am, countrypackrat wrote:
Yes Richard’ But is it not true now is the time to let the voters of clatsop know how you and hazen and samulson funneled the money for the election and had it whitewashed?
Carrie is a loudmouth piece of crap” I would compare her too Anne Samulson”Are you going to provide her a crib at the Lee mustang ranch?
We are fed up with Richard Lee and Carrie Bartoldus” she is married to a pers person and she squels like a rat when anyone else has any rights…We also know that she is a fraud like 90% of the christian want a be’s.
Edward Junio3rd
Birkenfeld,Oregon
Impeach Richard Lee & Anne Samulson/Jeffrey Hazen/Roberts.
105 On Nov 6, 09:09 am, Patrick McGee wrote:
If I didn’t know better, I would swear it was a Carrie Bartoldus alter ego.
Hmmmmmmmmmm!!!
“”“”“Carrie is a force to be reckoned with because she is brilliant. She is articulate and believes she’s right on this issue. She has inegrity. I don’t always agree with her but I like and respect her. Only a woman hater would harrass her repeatedly in such a cruel way. I have no doubt she is
capable of taking care of herself, but I want to remind you that she has has done much good . She is a scholar and a motherly woman.
Our minds seldom meet on methods of political activism. In fact she speaks her mind and will most likely try to put me in my place, but this is/was america. She is a good citizen in my view. Please stop harassing Carrie.”“”“”
107 On Nov 6, 11:16 am, Patrick McGee wrote:
Yes she does and I agree with you 100% Pierce.
A person of your integrity can spot these kind of tactics a mile away.
Thanks
108 On Nov 6, 11:20 am, mindyourown wrote:
Patrick you know full well it was Lee Rene writing, the same Lee that wrote in to the Daily Astorian so stop your shit. You’re so full of hatred for Carrie you’ll stop at nothing to degrade her or anyone that sticks up for her.
109 On Nov 6, 01:32 pm, Pierce wrote:
With all due respect Mr. McGee, I can spot a fonebone like yourself from 500 miles.
110 On Nov 6, 01:37 pm, sooth-sayer wrote:
ATTN: LUKE RUMMELL – I know you are out there and have written most of the really weird comments on this thread.
Leave your cousin’s wife alone and start bugging people in Texas for a change!
I am sure they love having you there.
111 On Nov 6, 01:47 pm, Patrick McGee wrote:
And with the respect you deserve, who would know better than you Pierce?
112 On Nov 6, 01:50 pm, P)atrick McGee wrote:
Who’s Carrie Bartoldus?
113 On Nov 6, 02:36 pm, countrypackrat wrote:
Carrie Bartolus is an anti da and her group is the ones that are against Josh Marquis right to a fair wage. She lives out in Walluski and she is one of those people that we suspect of sleeping with Anne Samulson And Richard Lee and Jeff Hazen and the other anti da. She is hoping that if Josh leaves that the people of Clatsop will shoe her in with her flap and bible….. Her husband is benefitting from Odot and Pers and yet she is against fair wages even though she has left literture in Astoria proclaiming to be a christian and yet I think that she has clap of the mouth her family owned Allied Vanlines.
Patrick snarlove
I know this because I hang out at Annies and have heard all of this…
114 On Nov 6, 02:54 pm, Pierce wrote:
I’m just a piker in comparison to you O maestro McGee.
116 On Nov 6, 05:15 pm, Carrie Bartoldus wrote:
I do not proselytize nor do I label myself Christian. I will leave the judging to God as to who is what. I find it hard to believe that our cousin Luke would lower himself to take pot shots anonymously. We have had our differences of opinion on this measure but Luke has had the fortitude to use his name and I do not believe he would be one to say such things about me or, especially, my family or religion, neither having anything whatsoever to do with this measure. Many of Luke’s own family benefit from PERS so I doubt he would be such a hypocrite. Whoever it is that is writing such filth and hatred it just doesn’t add up to be Luke, in my humble opinion. Whoever Country Boy/Walluski Rat/Countrypackrat/the antiwhoeverforce/western666 is I am pleased as punch they are opposing me. It is a sad commentary for whoever/whatever they are like minded with.
I am not against Mr. Marquis getting a fair wage in the least. I am against the charter having an illegal component to it.
If Mr. Marquis feels he isn’t getting fair compensation for being a District Attorney he should go to his employers, the State Legislature, and get an increase in his salary. He should then come up with a reasonable proposal. How is it that a District Attorney serving in a county with a population of 35,000 and all of the crimes associated with that size of population should be paid the same as a District Attorney serving a population of 190,000, or 300,000 or 700,000?
Our county had 1726 criminal court cases last year. 94% of them were handled with plea bargains, according to Mr. Marquis. With 7 deputy DAs and Mr. Marquis that means each of them had about 13 cases that they ended up trying. Honestly, that doesn’t seem like heavy caseloads. Yes, they still have to deal with those other cases, even if handled with pleas. Even still, divvied up between 8 attorneys thats still only 216 cases each. And it doesn’t matter if they win or lose their cases. And they get a retirement plan plus health benefits, cell phones, laptops, and Marquis gets a car and unregulated fuel allowance.
I honestly don’t see how the county (and we, as the taxpayers) are underfunding his office in the least nor abusing or disrespecting him or his office.
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1 On Aug 2, 08:01 pm, Oracle Of Moosmoos wrote:
BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAH!!!
The Freedom Of Information Act comes through!!
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